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Saturday, February 23, 2013

TIANSHI INTERNATIONAL: A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR SCAM!


TIANSHI INTERNATIONAL: A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR SCAM!







These days M/s Tianshi Int’l Pakistan Co. Pvt. Ltd (commonly known as Tianshi or TIENS) (SECP Reg#K-09031 of 2002-2003), a China based Pyramid Scheme is doing a roaring business with the support of highly influential people in Pakistan. They have recruited hundreds of thousands of people in their Pyramid Scheme!

The company has disguised its Pyramid activity with the help of MLM of spurious drugs which are high priced and not saleable so that the members ultimately rely on recruiting more members down the line and make commission that way. Such scams are referred to as “Recruiting MLM” that reward recruitment over retail sales or a “Product-based Pyramid Scheme”. Tiens is running a retail chain of stores under the name of BannerStore (SECP Reg# 0065384) as retail outlets for these spurious drugs. The BannerStore serves as the MLM front to disguise the underlying Pyramid Scheme. This scheme is bad for the people because:

1. Only the people in the top of the pyramid chain make money. The ones at the bottom of pyramid eventually lose when the scheme collapses.
2. It is Haraam! You are not selling any products nor providing a service. You are not trading. You are not manufacturing. You are basically enticing people to entice more people with greed. Members essentially become recruiters who are recruiting recruiters to recruit more recruiters! It is an endless chain of people recruiting people in their down-line!
3. Besides, the products of Tiens are made in China! They do not have any concept of Halaal or Haraam.
4. Ultimately it will collapse….creating legal problems. All the people in your down-line will realize that you misled them and sue you. You may lose your job and your reputation for good.

These thugs are exploiting mainly the students and theunemployed youths by giving them a false hope of employment and financial success. They are easily misled with promises of making their dreams come true. They get impressed by Foreign Styles, fairy tales promises, well dressed staff, modern outlook, trained presenters, and well organized functions in which they award high value gifts to few with a lot of pomp and show under the patronage of influential people. Tiens has created a high profileimage by using photos of its Group President Li Jinyuan with prominent people including Chaudhary Shujaat Hussain, giving the impression that these people endorse the company. This gives this Pyramid Scheme the legitimacy it needs.

http://www.tiens.com/tiens/group/en/About/achievement_foreign_countries.htm

http://ph.tiens.com/tiens/ph/en/about/1132.htm

People believe it to be a lawful activity as it enjoys support of former Senator/caretaker president Mr. Waseem Sajjad. On Friday, March 18, 2005 Senator Waseem Sajjad inaugurated the office of Tianshi in Pakistan.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-130552544.html

You can also browse through their Focus Magazines and see Mr. Sajjad active with Tianshi (click the top right corner of the e-zine to turn the pages):

http://www.tiens.com.pk/focus/focus_08.html

On page 35 of the following e-zine, you can see Mr. Waseem Sajjad with family in China during the 2009 Grand China Tour Promo of Tiens!

http://www.tiens.com.pk/focus/focus_09.html

In 2008, Mr. Waseem Sajjad congratulated the 13th Anniversary, as well as the inauguration of four BannerStore in Pakistan! Read on:

http://pk.tiens.com/tiens/pk/en/news/news_200812091556933.htm

To add insult to injury, Mr. Omar Sajjad, son of Mr. Waseem Sajjad is their legal counsel. People ask: “How can it be illegal when a Senator himself is promoting it and his law firm is their legal counsels? Clearly, the involvement and support of Mr. Waseem Sajjad is established with so many links on the web. It is saddening to see that such prominent lawyers represent and provide legal protection to such scammers because they have all the money. They will never help the people who are being exploited! Obviously, they cannot pay Mr. Omar Sajjad like Tiens!
Further, the spurious drugs are presented as herbal supplements with great medical benefits. This tactic is used to lend some respect and legitimacy to the scheme. Unfortunately, the drugs are spurious and have no real benefit. Besides, their price makes then unmarketable and the members make money from recruitment in their down-line.

Tiens claims that they are registered with SECP when in reality; they were never audited/inspected by SECP or any other regulatory authority. No one knows anything about the genuineness of their products and their financial affairs. No one knows the break-up of their income to ascertain the source of their income….products or pyramid membership income and the proportion of each in the total income. To date, no one has ascertained if Tiens has paid adequate taxes and if it even files Tax Returns! No one knows if they maintain a bank account and if they do, in which bank? No one knows how much money is being siphoned off out of Pakistan by Tiens! Given the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are involved already (according to one estimate, 1,000,000/- people) it is estimated that millions of dollars or trillions of rupees might have already been siphoned off out of Pakistan!

Tianshi is not only cheating our people, it is also making people consume spurious drugs with devastating side effects. The products are basically medicines but the company brands these as food supplements to dodge the health regulatory authorities. The Provincial Drug Inspector, DG Health Services, Peshawar has filed FIR No. 04/2008 under Section 27 (1) of the Drug Act 1976 and the case is pending in Peshawar High Court due to POLITICAL PRESSURE! So much for the freedom of Judiciary…According to the FIR, Tiens is involved in sale/distribution/manufacture/import of allopathic drugs under the garb of herbal/food supplements without having manufacturing license, registration from the Ministry of Health, which is violation of Section 23 (1) (a) (i) of the Drug Act 1976. One drug mentioned in the FIR was tested with presence of STEROIDS! Further, there are a lot of drugs that Tianshi claimed to have allopathic ingredients but actual analysis of the drugs revealed that none of them had any allopathic ingredient! So much for their drugs!

You can also read a report available on the website of the Federal Trade Commission of USA which has listed Tianshi in Appendix C on the last page as one of the illegal Pyramid/MLM Schemes whose plans were analyzed by the author of the report.

http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/bizoprevised/comments/535221-00006.pdf

To make matters even worse, Tiens Pakistan is under the Tiens South Asia Region. The Regional Headquarters are in Chennai, India! All the data from Pakistan is being sent to India on 25th of every month. TIENS has members from all walks of life, including politicians and other influential people, government employees and military personnel from all provinces lured into their scheme. It is possible that all the data, including employer name, designation, address, contact numbers, emails etc. are available with the Indians. Imagine Indians snooping on mail boxes of people in government service, politics and even military! Clearly, given the current situation of Pakistan, Tiens is an extreme security risk for Pakistan.

Here are some general guidelines:

1. Avoid schemes that promise enormous earnings real fast or get rich quick schemes.
2. Avoid schemes that reward/give commission for recruiting members in your down-line.
3. Beware of schemes that ask new members to purchase expensive products. These schemes can collapse quickly leave you with useless stock.
4. Stay away from schemes that give more commissions on sales made by new members in your down-line rather than through your own sales of the products.
5. Beware of plans that claim to sell miracle products. If there was a cure for baldness, there would not be a single bald man on earth.
6. Don't sign-up in a sales meeting or any other high-pressure situation. Insist on taking your time to think about it. Talk it over with your spouse, a knowledgeable friend, an accountant or a lawyer.
7. Do your homework and verify the credentials from the websites of the relevant regulatory authorities. Also do a web search.
8. Always remember the Golden Rule: If it is too good to be true, then it must be False!

Here is an example of consequences:

In January 1997, a huge number of Albanians suffered huge losses when similar scams collapsed and resulted in a civil war, which killed 2000 Albanians!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_unrest_in_Albania

STOP TIENS/TIANSHI BEFORE IT HURTS US AND OUR BELOVED COUNTRY!

STAY AWAY FROM TIENS AND CONDEMN IT!

Please spread the message for public safety and for PAKISTAN.

19 COMMENTS:

  1. pls let me know how to stop this fraud and why the authorities are not taking any action against these culprits? why the FBR , FIA and NAB sleeping over this ?
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  2. this is outragias!! we r ruled by mafia. this fraud mafia cheat orinary ppl and stay safe with powerful ppl support. no fir because fir maker face threat. no safety for common man. politicians involve in land mafia, drug mafia, flood mafia, loan mafia, money laundry mafia,...all taking our blood dry. they sell pakistan to gora givt for dollar. ples show more pics and exposed them more.
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  3. has govt taken any action against this fraud company ? or still the convened department are sleeping?
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  4. I think your statement is based on negative thinking ..
    You have not heard when they pay from their international sale? Then all the money comes to Pakistan .. And all members pay Income tax. And If there is any problem with the company then why it is working in more than 100 countries .. I know, Here in Pakistan, You can start business illegally .. But they are working All over the world .. And they are registered in International stock exchange .. You can check them under the symbol .. TBV-AMEX and on this Link .. An remember this is on CNN ..

    http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=TBV

    And Kindly if you have more information please share .. Coz I have joined this business but to me it is wonderful .. But I can be wrong .. And before joining i have searched all over the internet .. So please share more info it will be very helpful to me as well as to all Pakistani brothers and Sisters ..

    GOD BLESS ALL ..
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  5. i personally know this organization. what ever this blog mention is not true. actually its the activity of GREENWORLD. Tienshi is giving great compition to it, so they are unable stand on their own feet.
    its a propaganda against Tienshi. this company is running since 2001. and is growing day by day.
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  6. HAHAHAHA Such A Looser People Who Don't Know About It.... Just Watch It On www.fbr.gov.pk N.T.N Number is 1452201-2
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  7. i was tiens member and i hate tiens
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  8. why dont u post this material to media if ur claim is right??..
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  9. Well according to my research this COMPANY has all legal documents that could be show the authority of any organization. This is a true Company and a lot of people getting benefits from it.
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  10. TIENS has now reached my country the Philippines but I will not let them do what they did to Pakistanis. I made a blog warning my fellow countrymen to stay away from this scam.

    click on my name to see my blog
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  11. You Don't Think That FBR SECP CHAMBER OF COMMERCE is legal? Tiens is registered from it...
    A Honorary Thing is that Tiens is the member of United Nation... United Nation Give a Flag to this Company...

    now don't say that united nation is also scam... united nation is a big organization and they have sense if you don't have ok... i think you all are who is saying that tiens is illegal then y government and all other organization's are with it? you just a loser that's why.... i am a member of Tiens and i Love Tiens...
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  12. creater of this blog is such a looser , i am filling a complain against him and INSHALLAH this blog will be closed soon.Tiens Has Provided A Great Career Opportunity To Whole Pakistan , We Are Greatful To Mr Li Jin Yuan Who Has Brought Something Good And Peaceful For Us
    Together We Share , One World One Tiens
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  13. The blog is based on hard facts and the writer has done a great job.I personally know many people who lost their hard earned money through this scam. MLM is a PONZY scheme and is not allowed in many countries including China.In West they trade through under ground activities and no visible office.Can any one point out how they trade in Britain,France,USA,Canada etc.Dont become pray to high sounding claim and Mr.wasim sajjad and Ch Sujat pictures.Their greed is destroying our country.
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  14. Tiens is based on pure Network Marketing (MLM)since its inception , there is a huge difference between Network Marketing (MLM) and Pyramid Schemes (Ponzy) , Pyramid Schemes are banned in most of the countries of the world , So please get your facts right before misguiding other people.

    http://www.kerrycoates.com/blog/16-differences-between-pyramid-schemes-network-marketing-mlm/

    I shared this link to clear the concept between network marketing (MLM) and pyramid schemes (PONZY) . Tiens Operates In Consumption Makes Wealth Program means you are getting the product in the money you're giving Tiens , So where is the scam in this part.Huge problems people face is the lack of information that misguides them. Keep the facts clear always , Nobody Forces Anybody To Join This Tiens System,But i made my decision years back and ALHAMDULLILAH , i am enjoying my Healthy And Wealthy Lifestyle through Tiens , I Can Challenge There Is No Such Opportunity Like Tiens In Pakistan , where your lifestyle totally changes in only 1 / 2 years of hard work in Pakistan , Years Back I Was doing 9 am to 9 pm daily job and was getting low incomes , ALHAMDULLILAH after joining Tiens I Have My Own Car , income 10 times higher than my job , So My advice is to know the real truth also , creater of this blog hasnt mentioned the donations that Tiens Made And The Health it has given to Pakistan , Career Opportunities It is giving till date

    1)Registration in SECP

    Name TIANSHI INTERNATIONAL PAKISTAN CO. (PVT.) LIMITED
    Registration # 00000009031/20020907


    2)Registration in Chamber of Commerce

    Name TIANSHI INTERNATIONAL PAKISTAN CO. (PVT.) LIMITED
    Registration # 60025

    3)National Tax Number (NTN)

    Name TIANSHI INTERNATIONAL PAKISTAN CO. (PVT.) LIMITED
    Registration # 1452201-2

    4)Sales Tax Registration Number

    Name TIANSHI INTERNATIONAL PAKISTAN CO. (PVT.) LIMITED
    Registration # 12-00-3004-125-19

    these are the registrations of Tiens In Pakistan. May ALLAH guide people in right direction .
    (Please Note: My Post Is Totally Based On My Experience Working In Tiens , Its Not That I Am Supporting Tiens , I Only Shared The Truth Which Is Hidden In This Blog)

    i am always there to guide people , feel free to contact me :- bright_angel78@live.com
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  15. This is best system to boost the economy if you have any query then contact me 0312-5399453
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  16. we love tiens
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  17. bhai jaan yeh 2 numbri ka business intehai aik numbri say kar rahay hain. mlm system pori dunia main ghair qanooni hai. pakistan ki jahel awam ko sajhay kon. yeh andhay hain. aur behray hain.
    xinale gmi kahan gai hain arbon rupay doob gay ??
    kuch pata hai...
    ???

    Pakistan ka total sarmaya bahar jaa raha hay .
    hum apnay pakistan kay sath ziadti kar rahay hain...
    socho ...
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  18. tiens is distributing pkr 4 crore monthly among its distributor all over pakistan , creator of this blog agar tum aik baap ki jaiz olad ho na tou media per ye issue le kar ao phir tumhe pata chalega the power and love of tiens in Pakistan , blog bana kar tou meh bhee sabit sakta ho tum kisi ki najaiz olad ho magar fark sirf itna hai hum apne kaam se kaam rakte hain bas tum jese kuton ki tarha bhonkte nai , wo suna hai na bhonke wale kutte , insan ko kat tey nahi wohi hisab tumara hai , kitne pese diye hain ? EMI , GMI ya GREENWORLD walon ne tumhe is post k ???
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    1. Rasid bhai her kesi ko azadi ray ka haq hai aur hum Tiens walon ko ye zeeb nhi dyta, humy es Mohasery sy en he burayoon ko to ktm krna hai... agr hum b es lhjy mn bat kryn gy to hum mn aur en Pary Likhy aqal mand logon mn kya fark rh jay ga...!
      rha ye swal k Tiens 1 numbr hai ya 2 number to hai kesi mn itna dam k wo Tiens ka Muqbla kr sky....! La k Daikay koi itny Achievers....! kitny logon ko Pakistan mn Tiens ny Pakistan ki na k Duya ki Pechan bna d....! bat sirf System ko Follow krny ki hai... Ap kitni effer krty hn , its a 100% business...! jo log esy inami Chance, La-try, AkKRa, Tondola, Pgora Ya Qismat ka Khail smj kr krty hn woi Gila krty hn....!!!
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